Easier to Learn?

Is the crap way really the easier way to learn? According to more than one person it is, so does that make it true?

Personally, no I don’t think that you should teach yourself the wrong way and then, with the wrong information in hand, teach yourself the right way because what you learned first is going to get in the way of learning the second time around.

So why is it generally thought that the crap way is the easier way to go about it?

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#1

I think most people start of learning ‘the wrong way’ – they just don’t realize it! And once you’re entrenched in the messiness of (for example) bad HTML, it can be such a struggle to get out.

In time, if people have enough of an interest in the subject, they get better and re-learn some things. If not, then they don’t.

It’s not that crap is easier – it’s just that people don’t know any better until it’s too late, and then it’s hard to break old habits or bother to want to learn again. And that’s fine for some people. The people who want to learn more, then they go and figure stuff out!

Rosemarie Nov 4, 09:42 AM Permalink

#2

It bothers me that a lot of people seem to learn by copying and pasting chunks of code. It’ll take you so far, but it doesn’t require you to understand the actual grammar/principles of the languages beyond what’s necessary for a certain effect. Then when something goes wrong, it’s more difficult to know how to fix it.

The site discussed in your last entry is a good example. It had multiple head and body tags, its style sheet was linked incorrectly, the CSS positioning declarations were wrong, and the author still couldn’t understand why it wasn’t cross-browser compatible.

Gemma Nov 4, 10:16 AM Permalink

#3

I’ve learned by expirimentation, tutorials, help by friends, and such. We all start somewhere. Other people tend to use traces of other peoples coding. But it pisses me off when people try to “copyright” coding that they never wrote in the first place, you know? If you don’t do it yourself, you won’t learn that way.

Brandy Nov 4, 07:21 PM Permalink

#4

Unfortunately some people are well aware that they are using the crap way instead of the right way. An example from someone recommending Pixelfx.org to a person wanting to learn more about CSS:

I don’t think PixelFx is THAT bad though
If you have a problem with it then whatever, but I still think it’s a good site for people just starting to look at because at least they can grasp the basics from it.

Going a little further when I pointed out that, in spite of the basics learned at Pixelfx.org, she still had 7-some-odd errors in the HTML alone:

all of it is mainly because of my wordpress. i’ve ALREADY looked at that and i dont care :)

Becky Nov 5, 12:54 PM Permalink

#5

The thread which I’m assuming prompted you to write this popped up into referrals.. and all I can say is “WTF?!”. I quote: “Okay I looked at those two sites, and lissaexplains and pixelfx are SO much easier for newbies to understand.” ...if that is the case why do I get hundreds of e-mails each month saying “I tried to follow XYZ on pixelfx/lissaexplains/[insert other tutorial site here] but your’s was much easier!” If she cannot understand my tutorials, she’s in a very small minority.

Laziness is the problem. Pixelfx says “copy this code and tada!” – that’s not learning. Perhaps that’s why the person in question is having problems grasping the basics over at tutorialtastic – because the tutorials require you to read! * gasp *

Jem Nov 6, 05:05 AM Permalink

#6

Although, I am not sure in what exact context you entry is written, but I guess it depends from person to person. Some people are not guided properly so I don’t think they should be blamed, but yes, if they refuse to learn or do it ‘the right way’ later, it’s their fault. Time and resources matter too, and if they are not at disposal people will think that crap learning is better than no learning at all.

Kavitha Nov 6, 06:26 AM Permalink

#7

I think people take the “crap way” because it’s the “easy way out” and sometimes that’s how people want to learn certain things. It isn’t the right way by far, but sometimes I guess people are just too lazy!

Angela Nov 6, 06:53 AM Permalink